[Phplogcon-dev] phplogcon without user managment

[Rainer Gerhards]

Not sure about the google link, but "apples AND bananas", in my opinion
should search for the literal "apples and bananes" but not "apples
bananas". If I want the later, I'd say

"apples" and "bananas" 

The double quotes are actually (in most such search engines) a tool to
search for exact phrases. I am pretty sure the same applies to google
(at least this is how I use it ;)).

Rainer

> -----Original Message-----
> From: phplogcon-dev-bounces at lists.adiscon.com 
> [mailto:phplogcon-dev-bounces at lists.adiscon.com] On Behalf Of 
> Brian Shea
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 5:05 PM
> To: phplogcon-dev at lists.adiscon.com
> Subject: Re: [Phplogcon-dev] phplogcon without user managment
> 
> Okay, that is something to think about. I'll have to look at 
> the google link
> after work.
> 
> Yeah, that was a generic message that should never be 
> displayed. I guess
> they should have been different, probably just copy/pasted it 
> and forgot to
> change the text.
> 
> In DB_PEAR_sess_drv.php in line 155 that should have been 
> taken care of in
> the config.php file
> 
> if not, then that's where the fix needs to go, not in the 
> switch statement.
> And should be done for each of the field constants.
> 
> define'(_DBSESS_DATA_FIELD', _DBSESS_FIELD_PRE . "sess_data")
> 
> Oh, there is a problem when session ids are passed in the 
> URL, the quick
> filters dont work quite right. I'm not sure why.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brian
> 
> On 12/13/05, Michael Meckelein <mmeckelein at hq.adiscon.com> wrote:
> >
> > Google Help Center -> Advanced Search Made Easy
> > http://www.google.com/help/refinesearch.html
> >
> > Google does not care about "AND" operator. Google include all search
> > terms by default. We should adapt this approach.
> >
> > This means
> >
> > > Okay, that sounds good, I think we should discuss the syntax:
> > >
> > > double quote designates the search pattern
> > >
> > > Message Contains:  "apple AND banana"
> >
> > Should be equal with "apple banana", shouldn't be?
> >
> > (just a site note, because it is interesting but has 
> nothing to do with
> > phplogcon:
> > http://www.google.com/search?q=apple+AND+banana
> > and
> > http://www.google.com/search?q=apple+banana
> > have different result pages.)
> >
> > >
> > > in this search the AND is not a literal and, but a search 
> modifier.
> > Search
> > > results will return events with both word: apple, banana
> > >
> > > Message Contains:  "apple 'AND' banana"
> >
> > We should use double quotes (") instead of single quote (') 
> like google.
> > http://www.google.com/search?q=apple+%22and%22+banana
> >
> > >
> > > in this search the AND is a literal and, which will be 
> included in the
> > > search. Search results will return messages that contain 
> the entire
> > "apple
> > > and banana"
> > >
> > > Same goes for OR for the above.
> >
> > Ok.
> >
> > > Now the slightly more complicated part
> > >
> > > Message Contains: "red apples AND yellow bananas"
> > >
> > > The search should be preformed as such "red AND apples 
> AND yellow AND
> > > bananas" Results will display all event with those words
> >
> > I would go on with this approach, because it is like Google.
> >
> > >
> > > Or could be preformed as such:
> > >
> > > Message Contains: "red apples AND yellow bananas "
> > >
> > > The search will be preformed as such " 'red apples' AND 'yellow
> > bananas' "
> > > Results will contain all events with 'red apples' AND 'yellow
> > bananas'.
> > > But
> > > not events like 'red delicious apples' or 'yellow 
> delicious bananas'
> >
> > If you want perform such a search you have to enclose with quotes.
> > 
> http://www.google.com/search?q=%22red+apples%22+AND+%22yellow+
> bananas%22
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > > PLEASE comment on the above.
> > > -----
> > >
> > > If we try to tackle the first two on the list AND/OR, we 
> can build on
> > it
> > > from there, but changing the syntax from release to release might
> > confuse
> > > users, so we should figure out how the language is 
> interpreted. Maybe
> > a
> > > few
> > > google searches to see how google interprets things might 
> be a good
> > place
> > > to
> > > start.
> > >
> > > I might be able to hack out a simple searcher tonight, 
> nothing that
> > could
> > > be
> > > used in phpLogCon, but enought to show how to start processing the
> > search
> > > terms.
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > On 12/13/05, Rainer Gerhards <rgerhards at hq.adiscon.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That sounds pretty interesting. If we can offload some work to a
> > > > standard library, that is helpful in many cases 
> (assuming that the
> > > > library is a good one, of course ;)).
> > > >
> > > > Rainer
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: phplogcon-dev-bounces at lists.adiscon.com
> > > > > [mailto:phplogcon-dev-bounces at lists.adiscon.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > > Brian Shea
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 1:27 AM
> > > > > To: phplogcon-dev at lists.adiscon.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Phplogcon-dev] phplogcon without user managment
> > > > >
> > > > > So what do you think of the 1.2.6_bgs?
> > > > >
> > > > > You can use as much/little as you want and i can help put
> > > > > what you need into
> > > > > 1.2.1/1.2.2.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, i played with the Auth_PrefManager from PEAR, it works
> > > > > okay maybe that
> > > > > sould be considered for a futur release of phpLogCon along
> > > > > with PEAR:DB
> > > > > which works nicely.
> > > > >
> > > > > PEAR::Auth_PrefManager lacks one function
> > > > > Auth_PrefManager::getUserPrefs(
> > > > > string userId ).  Otherwise it would work great for all the
> > > > > Quick filters
> > > > > and definable filters, and maybe even supporting multiple
> > > > > DB's/Tables for
> > > > > log viewing.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll probably write the function and email it to them.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > On 12/12/05, Michael Meckelein 
> <mmeckelein at hq.adiscon.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Michael, were you having trouble with the trailing slash
> > > > > removal? If
> > > > > > so
> > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > was the problem? we should fix it to work with 
> IIS and Apache.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just noticed, you have already fixed this issue in
> > > > > phplogcon-1.2.6_bgs
> > > > > > :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Michael
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